Clint Eastwood wrote::worship::worship::worship::worship: wish id paid the extra £100 for a Nikon D3300 with panorama feature coz my cheaper D3200 doesn't have it

Spudgun60 wrote:Why is it, that bikes in America are in such fantastic condition for their age? It's annoying.
XERO wrote:It's because a 16 year old can roll into a Dealership and buy an R1 if they want, no graduated licencing over here.
"Oh, I see you have cash and you want this Panigale R ... sign here please." There is nothing cool about buying a 50cc bike when you can have a real sport bike, and impress all your friends with wheelies.
Typically these little underachievers are purchased by "adult kids" looking to have some fun. My RS was purchased new by a girl in her 20's to learn how to ride on, she was realistic and took great care of the bike. Another reason is that the motorcycle market over here was never flooded with these bikes. So having 1 of maybe only 1000 - 1500, (or even less depending on the model) usually keeps them in the hands of those that value them.
Don't get me wrong though, there are plenty of heaps out there.
Most of the time these bikes lose their novelty after awhile and end up getting stuffed into a corner or under a tarp and slowly fade from existence. The lucky few that find them today in great shape should really consider themselves fortunate.
Don't laugh M, but that exact bike is being employed to "prove" to me that my Red bike is only worth a pittance.
Spuds you may remember how the Silver bike looked when I picked it up. I've actually put a fair amount of effort into getting it decent, and there's more to come.
I think Xero summed it up pretty well. The ones that you see are generally owned by older folks that take special care of them. While in Europe these may be seen as Sixteener bikes here in the States pretty much the only people that buy them are enthusiasts. There are the occasional purchases for wives and girlfriends, but those tend to totally fail because if you are just learning how to ride you aren't going to be able to ride one of these bikes with other folks on liter bikes. Once you punk out the bike, and get your skill level up, then you can go out to the twistys, and totally demoralize a significant percentage of the liter bike population.
Ian—all of those photos were taken with my cell phone!
Of special note I've been chatting with my buddy Brett who lives in Kansas about actually doing
GPR Camp. It most likely will be an August, or September affair. We are tossing around ideas. Like one day at the track, and one day riding in the hills. It will also probably be in the SF Bay Area—at least the first time. If you are interested in participating, or helping organize let me know. The numbers will probably be pretty small, but it should be a super fun time.
Clint Eastwood wrote:Well that's embarrassing'

damn the smartphones to hell!:deadhorse: maybe i'm just a shite photographer :crybaby:
It takes time to learn how to photograph well. I have worked professionally in the field, however I wouldn't go so far as to say these photos of my bike are at that level. Again they are just snap shots from my phone. You can take a wide shot of something by standing far from the subject, and then crop the photo to give it that panoramic look.
Clint Eastwood wrote::cheers:

Molino wrote:Nah dude, that dude in Vermont is smoking crack. Once you crash a bike/use it as a farm bike/ take it off jumps its no way worth 1500$. $400 at best.
Your bike on the other hand could easily fetch 2000 or like $2500 if u brought it to like NYC or something.
But yes, these things are relatively rare here in the states and usually the ones who own them are adult-ish, I mean we're all sorta adults right?
Tora, if you do decide to do a rally type thing in Cali let me know. Maybe I can convince my friend with the truck to drive cross country lol.
I've been wanting to go to a rally for these bikes, but no one does them. The closest event is in Atlanta—
the True Grits fun run, but it is a single day affair. Since I've organized events (big music events) I have the background to do it. Of course a rally is somewhat of a different animal. I've been talking with Benji about it too. The thing is even if it was small it would be a blast. I'd like to do both some street riding, and some track action. In Stockton I think we could get some time on their track, especially if it was on a Friday. Then we could do a Saturday ride in the hills. Maybe a Streets of San Francisco on Sunday.
I would hope my bike would easily fetch that! I've way more invested in it. I've had it appraised at ~$10K, which once you add everything up even that starts to sound like a low ball. I've been tracking prices of these bikes for quite a while. That 2005 was the last year you could buy a two stroke moto in the States has been steadily driving the prices up. Very frequently you see these bikes priced at their original retail price, or more. Without any viable options this is a trend I expect to see continue.